WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.450 --> 00:00:13.130 Finportal: Okay, my good good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the innomit. Advanced materials. Limited earnings call 2 00:00:13.190 --> 00:00:15.620 Finportal: all participants are currently muted. 3 00:00:15.640 --> 00:00:21.809 Finportal: We'll open the floor for questions. After the presentation concludes, please note that the conference is being recorded 4 00:00:22.140 --> 00:00:37.159 Finportal: from Inuit Advanced Materials Limited. Today we have with us Mr. Vinay Chilakapati, managing director and chief executive officer, Mrs. Arita Chalakapati, chief financial officer. I now hand the meeting over to Mr. Vinay, managing director. 5 00:00:37.280 --> 00:00:39.170 Finportal: Thank you and over to you, Sir. 6 00:00:41.160 --> 00:00:48.490 Vinay Chilakapati: Yeah, thank you, Siddhi, for the introduction, and a warm welcome to all the investors, friends, and family 7 00:00:49.088 --> 00:00:53.770 Vinay Chilakapati: to this rpl representation of innomit advanced materials. Performance. 8 00:01:16.130 --> 00:01:19.159 Vinay Chilakapati: so is it visible? Is my screen visible to everyone. 9 00:01:23.190 --> 00:01:23.660 Vinay Chilakapati: Hello. 10 00:01:23.660 --> 00:01:25.020 saritha chilakapati: It's from my side. 11 00:01:26.770 --> 00:01:31.430 Vinay Chilakapati: Yeah. Should I go ahead with the presentation, Siddhi. Is anybody here? Should we wait for a few minutes? 12 00:01:35.560 --> 00:01:39.572 Vinay Chilakapati: Okay, so I'll go ahead with the presentation. So 13 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:44.359 Vinay Chilakapati: once again a warm welcome to everyone on the 14 00:01:45.088 --> 00:01:47.281 Vinay Chilakapati: meeting online meeting. And 15 00:01:47.810 --> 00:01:52.970 Vinay Chilakapati: my name is Vinay Shargapati. I'm the managing director of Innerment, advanced materials, Hyderabad. 16 00:02:01.700 --> 00:02:06.310 Vinay Chilakapati: So we are an Msme. Based out of Hyderabad with 2 divisions. 17 00:02:06.510 --> 00:02:12.000 Vinay Chilakapati: one division into manufacture of metal powders, and the other division into 18 00:02:12.400 --> 00:02:16.289 Vinay Chilakapati: manufacturer of transav alloys. So both of these 19 00:02:16.350 --> 00:02:26.229 Vinay Chilakapati: divisions come under the gamut of powder, metallurgy. So we are in the space of specialty powder, metallurgy, both in terms of manufacturing, of metal powders 20 00:02:26.250 --> 00:02:30.320 Vinay Chilakapati: for speciality applications, and also components 21 00:02:30.920 --> 00:02:35.469 Vinay Chilakapati: pertaining to tungsen heavy airlines which are also a speciality in the parametology area. 22 00:02:41.770 --> 00:02:50.272 Vinay Chilakapati: So metal powders are fine particles of metal or alloys basically produced by 23 00:02:51.936 --> 00:02:56.189 Vinay Chilakapati: atomization techniques, you know, largely. Mostly there are many other techniques. 24 00:02:56.350 --> 00:03:08.569 Vinay Chilakapati: But bulk of these metal powders are being produced by atomization techniques. So we use water, air and gas atomization techniques for the manufacture of various metal powders 25 00:03:08.760 --> 00:03:10.289 Vinay Chilakapati: that we manufacture. 26 00:03:10.460 --> 00:03:16.769 Vinay Chilakapati: The company is manufacturing metal powders for the past 20 years. 27 00:03:16.910 --> 00:03:22.179 Vinay Chilakapati: and producing powders like copper bronze, brass, nickel 28 00:03:22.700 --> 00:03:29.930 Vinay Chilakapati: stainless steel and various of their alloys like, yeah, many brasses and bronzes. 29 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:35.769 Vinay Chilakapati: So gathering to a variety of industrial applications. 30 00:03:37.730 --> 00:03:40.009 Vinay Chilakapati: So some of the applications include 31 00:03:40.590 --> 00:03:47.830 Vinay Chilakapati: automatology components, diamond tools, welding, brazing, chemical catalysts, surface coating, aesthetics 32 00:03:48.090 --> 00:03:55.390 Vinay Chilakapati: and the new new New Age manufacturing techniques like metal injection molding and editor manufacturing. 33 00:03:57.930 --> 00:03:59.000 Vinay Chilakapati: So 34 00:04:02.370 --> 00:04:04.700 Vinay Chilakapati: coming to the Oh. 35 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:08.749 Vinay Chilakapati: Thompson heavy Alloy Division. This is a 36 00:04:10.090 --> 00:04:17.800 Vinay Chilakapati: material made through the polymetology technique, which means that the starting material for manufacturing of this 37 00:04:18.790 --> 00:04:24.269 Vinay Chilakapati: heavy alloy is a metal powder, a mix of metal powders largely tungsten 38 00:04:24.320 --> 00:04:28.060 Vinay Chilakapati: with some nickel and iron in it, and sometimes copper and cobalt. 39 00:04:29.670 --> 00:04:39.812 Vinay Chilakapati: so tungsten. Heavier lies are special, because their density is of the order of 18 gram per CC. Which is about 200 and per 250% of 40 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:43.920 Vinay Chilakapati: steel so largely, its applications are, 41 00:04:45.675 --> 00:04:52.999 Vinay Chilakapati: making use of this particular characteristics of this material, which is the high density. So it finds application in 42 00:04:53.800 --> 00:05:00.429 Vinay Chilakapati: defense, aerospace, radiation, shielding, and other engineering applications. 43 00:05:04.050 --> 00:05:11.069 Vinay Chilakapati: So, coming to our metal powders, we have, many, many specialty metal powders. 44 00:05:11.220 --> 00:05:19.430 Vinay Chilakapati: and a lot of them are copper, and it's alloys like bronze, brass, and special grasses. 45 00:05:19.790 --> 00:05:23.370 Vinay Chilakapati: We also have iron, a variety of iron, copper, alloys. 46 00:05:23.550 --> 00:05:26.740 Vinay Chilakapati: tin powder, iron, powder, and stainless steam powders. 47 00:05:28.400 --> 00:05:39.419 Vinay Chilakapati: So these products largely go to autometology, industry, diamond tool industry, aesthetics, dyes and chemicals. 48 00:05:40.110 --> 00:05:48.219 Vinay Chilakapati: And you know, electronics, industry and also some difference into sometimes defense industry. 49 00:05:50.810 --> 00:05:53.099 Vinay Chilakapati: Coming to tungsten, heavy alloys, division. 50 00:05:53.240 --> 00:05:56.309 Vinay Chilakapati: We have products like pre fragmented 51 00:05:56.750 --> 00:06:07.110 Vinay Chilakapati: parts, like spheres, cuboids, cubes and rods, balance weights, tail masses, radiation shielding products like colummeters, camera bodies 52 00:06:07.980 --> 00:06:13.530 Vinay Chilakapati: and other applications, including medical aerospace and defense applications. 53 00:06:16.500 --> 00:06:24.480 Vinay Chilakapati: So we are actually catering to a a variety of end. User industries like, 54 00:06:25.630 --> 00:06:30.530 Vinay Chilakapati: end, user technologies like power, metallurgy, diamond tools, surface coatings. 55 00:06:30.630 --> 00:06:38.590 Vinay Chilakapati: petrochemicals, pharmaceuticals, water purification, automobiles, rock cutting and defense and ordinary factories. 56 00:06:40.550 --> 00:06:45.820 Vinay Chilakapati: So our core competencies are 57 00:06:45.960 --> 00:06:54.439 Vinay Chilakapati: that we are a experienced team with very senior people, assistant assisting us with both technology and management. 58 00:06:55.128 --> 00:06:57.169 Vinay Chilakapati: We are currently working on. 59 00:06:57.220 --> 00:07:04.900 Vinay Chilakapati: you know, various good practices like, you know, lean manufacturing digitization of the various processes 60 00:07:05.620 --> 00:07:12.470 Vinay Chilakapati: to enable visibility. And you know, analytics 61 00:07:13.071 --> 00:07:17.650 Vinay Chilakapati: so that we can improve our efficiencies and take this company further. 62 00:07:18.690 --> 00:07:23.449 Vinay Chilakapati: So we in the last 2 decades, we had actually build reputation with the 63 00:07:23.490 --> 00:07:30.854 Vinay Chilakapati: a lot of marquee clients both for our metal powder division and 64 00:07:31.769 --> 00:07:35.720 Vinay Chilakapati: our times. Heavy avoidation methyl powders. We are catering to the 65 00:07:36.232 --> 00:07:45.287 Vinay Chilakapati: biggest in the country. And the and many, many multinational companies. Also, they're also exporting a lot of our products abroad. And 66 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:50.460 Vinay Chilakapati: we are, we are focusing on exports before our growth. 67 00:07:53.330 --> 00:07:55.409 Vinay Chilakapati: One second, excuse me. 68 00:08:01.570 --> 00:08:20.712 Vinay Chilakapati: So we have a diverse product range for both divisions. When we talk of metal powers. We are actually catering to a a diverse application, as I told you earlier, that from making components to surface coatings to welding, brazing, and diamond tools and aesthetics, and 69 00:08:21.669 --> 00:08:31.609 Vinay Chilakapati: retail manufacturing there are very. They're all very special applications for a very diverse range of industry. 70 00:08:32.650 --> 00:08:37.249 Vinay Chilakapati: We are an Iso 9,000 certified company, and then we continue to invest in 71 00:08:37.710 --> 00:08:42.299 Vinay Chilakapati: equipment and team for ensuring that. 72 00:08:42.832 --> 00:08:49.280 Vinay Chilakapati: We manufacture products according to standards, and then, delight our customers. 73 00:08:54.010 --> 00:09:00.990 Vinay Chilakapati: Same thing, we are actually committed to quality. And then in the last 2 days, we have actually got the reputation of producing 74 00:09:01.700 --> 00:09:10.469 Vinay Chilakapati: so powders and tense behavior, like components, you know, to satisfy and exceed customer demands. 75 00:09:12.350 --> 00:09:16.646 Vinay Chilakapati: So geographically, we are there across 76 00:09:17.650 --> 00:09:18.840 Vinay Chilakapati: So the 77 00:09:18.950 --> 00:09:34.850 Vinay Chilakapati: a world map, right from New Zealand, to Australia, to Southeast Asia, to everywhere in India and Middle East and Europe, and up to the Americas. So we are currently focusing on exports of our products. 78 00:09:35.710 --> 00:09:40.990 Vinay Chilakapati: We constantly invest in promoting our 79 00:09:41.210 --> 00:09:49.048 Vinay Chilakapati: through exhibitions. And we are actually going to initiate a big digital marketing initiative for 80 00:09:49.830 --> 00:10:02.749 Vinay Chilakapati: enhancing our brand, you know, through various digital marketing. And also, you know, trying to be present in many international exhibitions and conferences. 81 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:12.270 Vinay Chilakapati: We also continuously work with the academicians, scientists 82 00:10:12.430 --> 00:10:24.888 Vinay Chilakapati: and experts. And we continue to, you know, collaborate with all these institutions to enhance our knowledge and also Co develop with 83 00:10:26.136 --> 00:10:30.030 Vinay Chilakapati: you know, these knowledge people and knowledge institutions. 84 00:10:31.560 --> 00:10:37.286 Vinay Chilakapati: That is how we constantly improve our knowledge base and then increase our 85 00:10:38.350 --> 00:10:42.830 Vinay Chilakapati: the customer base. And also you know, products. 86 00:10:46.260 --> 00:10:54.849 Vinay Chilakapati: So this is our brief history. We started off as an ancillary to Vh ramsurap way back, 1976. 87 00:10:55.220 --> 00:10:58.929 Vinay Chilakapati: And then, since 1976 to 88 00:10:59.000 --> 00:11:04.199 Vinay Chilakapati: almost like 1998, we were into manufacturing of 89 00:11:04.940 --> 00:11:10.950 Vinay Chilakapati: you know. You know, fabrication machining as a general engineering. It is so fabrication and machining and all that. 90 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:16.639 Vinay Chilakapati: Since 1998 we got into manufacture of diamond tools. 91 00:11:16.820 --> 00:11:24.990 Vinay Chilakapati: In the year 2,004, we we quit both engineering and diamond tools, and then got into manufacturing of metal bar alli powers. 92 00:11:25.220 --> 00:11:29.689 Vinay Chilakapati: So since then we have been producing metal powders almost 2 decades now. 93 00:11:29.870 --> 00:11:40.089 Vinay Chilakapati: and in the year 2,010 we got into R&D of tungsten heavy alloys, and in the 2 year 2,000 94 00:11:40.460 --> 00:11:45.239 Vinay Chilakapati: 12 we set up a complete division for manufacture of Tanzanavia alloys. 95 00:11:47.050 --> 00:11:50.541 Vinay Chilakapati: So we work with many iits and 96 00:11:52.841 --> 00:12:05.310 Vinay Chilakapati: academic institutions in the country. We help students to do their project works and you know, help them with, you know, industry practices and industry requirements. 97 00:12:06.870 --> 00:12:09.999 Vinay Chilakapati: We in the 2 year 2,018, we actually 98 00:12:11.136 --> 00:12:16.979 Vinay Chilakapati: work with iit metros for developing tungsten. Sorry Ods alloys. 99 00:12:17.150 --> 00:12:22.960 Vinay Chilakapati: And one of the key thing about Ods Allies is that the starting metal is a gas atomized 100 00:12:23.637 --> 00:12:26.669 Vinay Chilakapati: powder. So we set up a whole acetomizer for 101 00:12:26.770 --> 00:12:42.170 Vinay Chilakapati: for development of Ods alloys. And then we continue to use these gas gasotomized powders for various other applications, like surface coatings, original manufacturing and going to develop metal injection powders for metal injection moldings. 102 00:12:43.880 --> 00:12:51.990 Vinay Chilakapati: In 2,019 we converted that Padmasri enterprises which was a partnership firm into a private limited company called Inomed 103 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:55.941 Vinay Chilakapati: Advanced Materials private limited, but we have the nomad 104 00:12:56.893 --> 00:13:04.446 Vinay Chilakapati: brand name since 2,004. So you know, Matt was continuing, since 2,000, almost 2 decades even before 105 00:13:05.110 --> 00:13:09.019 Vinay Chilakapati: the company became privately limited with the name in them at advanced materials. 106 00:13:13.010 --> 00:13:18.631 Vinay Chilakapati: So we continue to work with the organizations like Arc, DM. Model 107 00:13:19.250 --> 00:13:26.430 Vinay Chilakapati: and other such knowledge institutions for developing speciality metals? 108 00:13:27.668 --> 00:13:30.660 Vinay Chilakapati: For for for various applications! 109 00:13:33.280 --> 00:13:39.470 Vinay Chilakapati: In 2,023 we converted, from a private Limited Company to a public limited company. 110 00:13:39.660 --> 00:13:47.590 Vinay Chilakapati: and in 2,024 in the month of September we we went for Ipo on the Nsc. Platform. 111 00:13:50.420 --> 00:13:52.483 Vinay Chilakapati: So before. 112 00:13:55.450 --> 00:14:09.069 Vinay Chilakapati: about since since since January of this year, we have moved to a place called Sultanpur. Before that we were actually operating from 3 different locations in Vhl, Ramshhand, Rapuram, industrial estate. 113 00:14:09.350 --> 00:14:19.229 Vinay Chilakapati: So now we have moved completely all the manufacturing operations to the purpose, built a factory in Sutanpur. 114 00:14:19.700 --> 00:14:25.868 Vinay Chilakapati: So it it it started operations from January of this year, and 115 00:14:26.740 --> 00:14:31.396 Vinay Chilakapati: most of most of the plant and equipment are settled. And 116 00:14:32.335 --> 00:14:37.000 Vinay Chilakapati: we are actually looking at a significant growth coming from. 117 00:14:37.100 --> 00:14:44.410 Vinay Chilakapati: you know, going to Sutanpur and also with the Ipo process. 118 00:14:44.460 --> 00:14:46.430 Vinay Chilakapati: We are looking at significant growth. 119 00:14:50.860 --> 00:14:55.399 Vinay Chilakapati: So this is a picture of our factory. So 120 00:14:55.650 --> 00:15:02.689 Vinay Chilakapati: this one in red is the metal powder division, and the one in green is the tungsten heavy alloy division. 121 00:15:03.180 --> 00:15:08.455 Vinay Chilakapati: So and this this whole place is 122 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:18.870 Vinay Chilakapati: a fellow of a key. Ladies. Organization meant meant meant for Vicky, ladies, woman! 123 00:15:19.130 --> 00:15:20.005 Vinay Chilakapati: So 124 00:15:20.890 --> 00:15:26.419 Vinay Chilakapati: this is just by the outering road. If somebody knows Hyderabad we are, we are just by the outering road. 125 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:37.549 Vinay Chilakapati: So some of the advantages that accrue out of actually moving to tungsten heavy alloys is that you know we have been operating in 3 different places 126 00:15:37.620 --> 00:15:44.930 Vinay Chilakapati: until the end of 2,000 2,023. Now we have built 2 purpose built 127 00:15:45.610 --> 00:15:53.979 Vinay Chilakapati: sheds for each division, one for metal powders and the other for tungsten heavy alloys. 128 00:15:54.120 --> 00:16:07.660 Vinay Chilakapati: so that gives us a lot of advantage with, you know, sharing common facilities like security, water power, and many other things that are related to the power metal industry. 129 00:16:11.670 --> 00:16:12.650 Vinay Chilakapati: So 130 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:22.182 Vinay Chilakapati: so we are saving on power. Because earlier, we used to have 4 different connections. Now, which is a signal connection, and 131 00:16:22.590 --> 00:16:26.670 Vinay Chilakapati: see a lot of saving on power. 132 00:16:27.356 --> 00:16:35.863 Vinay Chilakapati: We also, since the the place is much bigger. And then we have actually, you know, purpose built 133 00:16:37.420 --> 00:16:41.740 Vinay Chilakapati: factory. So we have a lot of opportunity to 134 00:16:42.202 --> 00:16:47.269 Vinay Chilakapati: increase production and also safety and also quality. And all these things. 135 00:16:47.724 --> 00:16:54.209 Vinay Chilakapati: You know, we could operate these units with a lot of a lot of efficiency as compared to the 136 00:16:54.320 --> 00:16:56.060 Vinay Chilakapati: previous situation. 137 00:16:56.280 --> 00:17:00.859 Vinay Chilakapati: So we are also having savings on consumables and other 138 00:17:01.901 --> 00:17:06.390 Vinay Chilakapati: other facilities which both the divisions need. So 139 00:17:06.599 --> 00:17:09.340 Vinay Chilakapati: a lot of efficiencies getting built in 140 00:17:09.400 --> 00:17:18.540 Vinay Chilakapati: a lot of safety also has has been built in into the in the design of the whole plant, and the operations. 141 00:17:18.710 --> 00:17:28.089 Vinay Chilakapati: And so we are. We are going to leverage on all these benefits, you know, to take this company to a world class facility. 142 00:17:35.960 --> 00:17:49.406 Vinay Chilakapati: So after the Ipo since September, we have been focusing on sales because we already had a lot of products in our basket. And then we are, we are actually all out investing in marketing, and 143 00:17:50.151 --> 00:17:53.668 Vinay Chilakapati: you know, getting getting big orders. So we we are 144 00:17:54.440 --> 00:17:58.249 Vinay Chilakapati: happy to announce that we are getting some good response from 145 00:17:59.543 --> 00:18:04.680 Vinay Chilakapati: big customers both in India and outside of the country. 146 00:18:07.030 --> 00:18:11.384 Vinay Chilakapati: So our our focus is, largely on exports and 147 00:18:12.344 --> 00:18:17.695 Vinay Chilakapati: new products which are being imported into the country for metal powders we are looking at, 148 00:18:18.250 --> 00:18:22.879 Vinay Chilakapati: you know, bringing in products like, you know. 149 00:18:23.740 --> 00:18:30.710 Vinay Chilakapati: copper powder mixes for energy, industry, stainless steels for bottom industry. 150 00:18:31.426 --> 00:18:32.093 Vinay Chilakapati: Then, 151 00:18:33.050 --> 00:18:42.189 Vinay Chilakapati: you know, many metal powders for diamond tool industry. We are trying to collaborate with foreign experts and then coming up with new bonds for our existing customers, and also 152 00:18:43.300 --> 00:18:44.340 Vinay Chilakapati: new customers. 153 00:18:47.560 --> 00:19:00.556 Vinay Chilakapati: So in tungsten, heavy alloys. We got a major order from an Israeli company, a defense company. And we are, we are actually working on improving our 154 00:19:01.413 --> 00:19:17.030 Vinay Chilakapati: Capabilities and the knowledge and also quality to make the customers happy, and then come back to us with more products, you know, which otherwise, nobody in the country is producing. 155 00:19:18.610 --> 00:19:22.958 Vinay Chilakapati: So we have an order book of about 5 crores for Thompson, heavy alloys, and about 156 00:19:23.300 --> 00:19:31.369 Vinay Chilakapati: 2 crores for metal powers the 5 crores we should be able to do by the end of this year. And then there's 2 crores by the end of this month. 157 00:19:31.580 --> 00:19:39.140 Vinay Chilakapati: So they are recur recurring orders, and then we are continuing to work on, you know, increasing these 158 00:19:39.360 --> 00:19:41.210 Vinay Chilakapati: significantly. 159 00:19:48.590 --> 00:19:50.720 Vinay Chilakapati: Think I've already mentioned of this. 160 00:19:54.120 --> 00:19:58.045 Vinay Chilakapati: So there is a there is a there is a lot of 161 00:19:58.840 --> 00:20:04.199 Vinay Chilakapati: demand going up for transav alloys and metal powders in the country because 162 00:20:04.844 --> 00:20:12.910 Vinay Chilakapati: of, particularly Atman Nirbhar, and also a lot of private industries coming into manufacture of ammunition in the country. 163 00:20:12.930 --> 00:20:17.099 Vinay Chilakapati: So one of the biggest application for tungsten heavy alloys is pre fragments 164 00:20:17.250 --> 00:20:35.800 Vinay Chilakapati: for warheads on missiles and all those things. So India is also going to become a net, working hard to become a net exporter of ammunition to various other countries. So that is where we stand a good opportunity. And we would like to benefit from that. 165 00:20:35.890 --> 00:20:43.771 Vinay Chilakapati: since we have a 10 year standing in this space. So we would like to leverage on that. And then, 166 00:20:44.753 --> 00:20:47.649 Vinay Chilakapati: you know, grow, grow on those lines. 167 00:20:50.250 --> 00:20:52.008 Vinay Chilakapati: We are also working with 168 00:20:55.370 --> 00:21:01.640 Vinay Chilakapati: many companies for developing components for yeah. 169 00:21:02.450 --> 00:21:11.219 Vinay Chilakapati: for hydrolyze, hydrogen generators, hydrolyzers, basically parts for Pm parts for generating hydrogen. 170 00:21:11.330 --> 00:21:18.630 Vinay Chilakapati: So these are all critical parts which are required by the by, the 171 00:21:19.480 --> 00:21:23.299 Vinay Chilakapati: by, by the industry for manufacturing green hydrogen. 172 00:21:23.400 --> 00:21:29.761 Vinay Chilakapati: So a lot of effort by the Government of India, and also Indian industry is actually a going on for 173 00:21:30.300 --> 00:21:32.410 Vinay Chilakapati: manufacturing of green hydrogen. 174 00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:38.749 Vinay Chilakapati: So we are producing some critical components in that space. So we we hope 175 00:21:38.820 --> 00:21:41.320 Vinay Chilakapati: so that we will be able to 176 00:21:42.010 --> 00:21:46.580 Vinay Chilakapati: leverage on that for increasing our sales in in the near future. 177 00:21:51.650 --> 00:22:00.500 Vinay Chilakapati: So tungsten, heavy alloy is a a big industry across the world. But India has the limited 178 00:22:02.930 --> 00:22:10.984 Vinay Chilakapati: application, and it is growing so tungsten. Heavy alloy is again very, very niche in that. And 179 00:22:11.895 --> 00:22:15.364 Vinay Chilakapati: we are the early movers in that space. And 180 00:22:16.400 --> 00:22:21.570 Vinay Chilakapati: we, we continue to innovate and develop new products 181 00:22:21.994 --> 00:22:28.549 Vinay Chilakapati: for the customers. And these are actually products. As we speak, there are new products being developed. 182 00:22:28.560 --> 00:22:43.980 Vinay Chilakapati: and we are at the stage of where the the customers are actually developing products with us. And then we will be the natural supply partners for for those applications when they go for full manufacture. 183 00:22:54.420 --> 00:22:58.579 Vinay Chilakapati: So bulk of these applications are actually for defense. 184 00:22:59.110 --> 00:23:06.470 Vinay Chilakapati: And we have customers like pdl, Drdl, Np. Oil. 185 00:23:06.610 --> 00:23:09.980 Vinay Chilakapati: Then, Hal, many divisions of Hal. 186 00:23:10.180 --> 00:23:15.850 Vinay Chilakapati: and we are also exporting to Israel, and 187 00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:22.960 Vinay Chilakapati: we are also developing some special parts for Lca 188 00:23:24.610 --> 00:23:27.590 Vinay Chilakapati: and and many other advanced applications. 189 00:23:31.690 --> 00:23:34.614 Vinay Chilakapati: So research and development continue to be our 190 00:23:36.400 --> 00:23:42.900 Vinay Chilakapati: main strength. We continue to work with our customers to develop new products, new processes. 191 00:23:43.070 --> 00:23:56.300 Vinay Chilakapati: And we have a lot of knowledge people helping us do this. And then we also, take a support from individuals and institutions, from in everywhere, in India and outside of the country as well. 192 00:23:56.440 --> 00:24:03.170 Vinay Chilakapati: So we continue to develop new products as we continue to sell our existing 193 00:24:04.610 --> 00:24:11.339 Vinay Chilakapati: products in the space of powder metallurgy, both in both in the metal powders and also components from metal powders. 194 00:24:20.070 --> 00:24:35.750 Vinay Chilakapati: Strategy is basically initially will be through marketing the existing products we reach out to customers. We have appointed very senior people who in the industry, who understands this industry for the past 4 decades. 195 00:24:35.830 --> 00:24:39.110 Vinay Chilakapati: And they are reaching out to 196 00:24:39.691 --> 00:24:42.778 Vinay Chilakapati: various customers. And you know. 197 00:24:43.673 --> 00:24:46.639 Vinay Chilakapati: we are. We are actually trying to. 198 00:24:46.997 --> 00:24:54.642 Vinay Chilakapati: you know, sell the existing products. And we are also going to develop new products in the area of stainless steels, and 199 00:24:55.503 --> 00:24:57.236 Vinay Chilakapati: some specialty powders like 200 00:24:57.690 --> 00:25:12.389 Vinay Chilakapati: copper powder for infiltration, which these are all import substitutes. And then we are in an advanced stage, where we could actually give samples to the customers and then get their feedback, and then take it up from there for a regular production 201 00:25:14.290 --> 00:25:38.920 Vinay Chilakapati: in terms of Thompson. Heavy alloys we have invested on new equipment new equipment, and then producing larger powders, more strength, and all these things to be able to cater to various applications like defense. Medical sector, medical sector is one area which is actually catching up. And for cancer treatment. And all these things, you need a lot of Dharma radiation. 202 00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:59.280 Vinay Chilakapati: And this gamma radiation is actually contained using tungsten heavy alloys also collimated using tungsten heavy alloys. So this is one big area. The country is growing. And we have a lot of requirement for these cancer treatment machines which requires this radiation shielding material. And we are at the 203 00:26:00.131 --> 00:26:07.720 Vinay Chilakapati: at that doorstep, not trying to engage with people who are actually making machines for for these applications. 204 00:26:12.230 --> 00:26:15.771 Vinay Chilakapati: like, I told you, we are spread across the world. 205 00:26:17.750 --> 00:26:25.779 Vinay Chilakapati: so, and we continue to do that mostly in the West, in the Europe the Middle East and Americas. 206 00:26:25.910 --> 00:26:35.340 Vinay Chilakapati: So so these are our current countries wherever we are exporting. 207 00:26:39.930 --> 00:26:44.056 Vinay Chilakapati: So we continue to improve our processes. We are actually working on. 208 00:26:46.410 --> 00:26:49.085 Vinay Chilakapati: you know, lean manufacturing. And 209 00:26:49.850 --> 00:26:55.290 Vinay Chilakapati: you know, also, we we are investing in green technologies. 210 00:26:55.820 --> 00:27:00.049 Vinay Chilakapati: We are also going to invest in solar power. We are also going to 211 00:27:00.600 --> 00:27:06.699 Vinay Chilakapati: invest on digital marketing. We are also going to invest on digitization of all the processes 212 00:27:06.800 --> 00:27:10.239 Vinay Chilakapati: so that we could actually scale up 213 00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:18.109 Vinay Chilakapati: when we actually scale up, you know. We would like to have all our operations, you know. 214 00:27:19.703 --> 00:27:21.570 Vinay Chilakapati: Digitally monitored. 215 00:27:22.350 --> 00:27:28.820 Vinay Chilakapati: So we continue to improve improve our packaging also, and then, depending upon the customer's requirement. We continue to. 216 00:27:29.570 --> 00:27:35.329 Vinay Chilakapati: but, you know, have more options for you know, backing 217 00:27:36.152 --> 00:27:42.010 Vinay Chilakapati: depending upon the size of the customer and the application of the product. So we continue to improve on packaging. 218 00:27:42.230 --> 00:27:51.856 Vinay Chilakapati: And we are. We are working on. We are already an Iso 9,000 certified, and then we are also working on a standards for 219 00:27:52.230 --> 00:28:01.210 Vinay Chilakapati: for our division. And once we have the area as standards, we could actually reach out to very big customers like Boeing and Airbus and all those 220 00:28:01.836 --> 00:28:02.850 Vinay Chilakapati: big companies. 221 00:28:07.530 --> 00:28:24.350 Vinay Chilakapati: So we collaborate with various educational institutions, R&D institutions across the country and with individuals across the world. Who are experts in their field. And then we we develop processes and products for 222 00:28:26.041 --> 00:28:31.329 Vinay Chilakapati: pro processes and products for various applications in the space of parmetology. 223 00:28:34.560 --> 00:28:40.649 Vinay Chilakapati: Some of our customers for metal powders are Sundaram fasteners, hoganas atul. 224 00:28:40.690 --> 00:28:49.579 Vinay Chilakapati: you know. Metal stay, sharp metal ear, royal metal in our in our world, grand tools, circa. 225 00:28:50.520 --> 00:28:58.090 Vinay Chilakapati: gk, and and and we have more than 150 customers, and most about 50 to 60 are regular monthly buyers. So 226 00:28:58.190 --> 00:29:01.760 Vinay Chilakapati: we keep adding new customers. 227 00:29:01.960 --> 00:29:21.729 Vinay Chilakapati: We constantly fill the pipeline, and then somebody is working at looking at new applications. Somebody is working at reaching out to customers. Somebody somebody is working at producing samples, and somebody is constantly producing and supplying. So we have a well oiled 228 00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:28.400 Vinay Chilakapati: process now, and we are actually trying to digitize all these processes and hope to 229 00:29:29.182 --> 00:29:32.420 Vinay Chilakapati: scale up without much of a hassle. 230 00:29:35.280 --> 00:29:44.299 Vinay Chilakapati: Our trunks and heavy alloy customers include solar explosives, Keltron bark dynamics, Adonan. 231 00:29:44.750 --> 00:29:49.889 Vinay Chilakapati: Kiruluskar, petroleum, Drdo, Hal, Iai, Israel. 232 00:29:50.030 --> 00:29:58.360 Vinay Chilakapati: and Ard, and many many more. We are more than 40 customers for our Tungs and heavy alloys, and then we are adding new customers across the world. 233 00:30:00.860 --> 00:30:07.321 Vinay Chilakapati: So this is the top management. My, I'm the managing director. 234 00:30:08.300 --> 00:30:15.130 Vinay Chilakapati: this is Lakshmi Kantama. She's the director and promoter, and Sarita. She's the whole time director and the Cfo. Of the company. 235 00:30:16.940 --> 00:30:22.492 Vinay Chilakapati: The new addition to management is we have actually in in invested in 236 00:30:23.573 --> 00:30:42.549 Vinay Chilakapati: marketing and sales. So one Mr. Prakash, who was actually worked for 40 years in the Parliament industry with, the biggest names in the country and across the world. He's with us, helping us reach out to customers and then bringing his lot of knowledge 237 00:30:43.094 --> 00:30:49.725 Vinay Chilakapati: and experience into reaching out to customers and the product development. And of course, 238 00:30:50.450 --> 00:30:53.220 Vinay Chilakapati: you know, new new products. 239 00:30:55.600 --> 00:30:58.198 Vinay Chilakapati: This is a revenue breakdown of our 240 00:31:01.290 --> 00:31:04.223 Vinay Chilakapati: company from metal powders and 241 00:31:05.230 --> 00:31:12.589 Vinay Chilakapati: tons and heavy oils is about 75 to 20 2575 being metal powders, and 25 being tons and heavier voice. 242 00:31:15.140 --> 00:31:25.600 Vinay Chilakapati: This is a small view of the the utilization of the funds. 243 00:31:26.390 --> 00:31:27.120 Vinay Chilakapati: Yeah. 244 00:31:31.770 --> 00:31:34.799 Vinay Chilakapati: Srita, would you like to take over from here. 245 00:31:39.060 --> 00:31:41.020 saritha chilakapati: Yes, if you remember it. 246 00:31:41.350 --> 00:31:41.850 Vinay Chilakapati: Yeah. 247 00:31:41.850 --> 00:31:47.499 Vinay Chilakapati: you you want me to. You just tell me, and I'll I'll further or you want to. You want me to stop sharing, and you can share. 248 00:31:49.171 --> 00:32:05.768 saritha chilakapati: No, I think I'll I'll talk from here, and you can. Just there's just 3 4 slides left out. So very unique, everybody. And I'm the whole time Director and Cfo of Internet Advance meetings, Limited. I take care of the entire finance of the company. And 249 00:32:06.170 --> 00:32:29.600 saritha chilakapati: here I would like to dwell upon the usage of funds. So we had raised about 34.2 3 crores, and the funds were deployed in this fashion, where the working capital was about 5.7 crores. We gave some advances in the form for Capex, about 3 crores, and we actually cleared some debt which is part of the objects of the issue. 250 00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:32.990 saritha chilakapati: and of course, some general purpose, expenses and 251 00:32:33.340 --> 00:32:38.979 saritha chilakapati: and the issue expenses. So there are certain unutilized ones which are still lying in our bank account 252 00:32:39.230 --> 00:32:41.159 saritha chilakapati: as of 30th of September. 253 00:32:41.220 --> 00:32:44.530 saritha chilakapati: Can you change the slide when I 254 00:32:45.130 --> 00:32:51.099 saritha chilakapati: so these are the financials retrospective to our last financial year and a comparative statement. 255 00:32:51.180 --> 00:32:54.910 saritha chilakapati: and we can discuss on this one by one. 256 00:32:55.602 --> 00:32:56.970 saritha chilakapati: The next one, please. 257 00:32:58.770 --> 00:33:05.350 saritha chilakapati: Yeah. So I mean, this is the balance sheet detail, I think, which we have uploaded in the Nsc site as well. 258 00:33:05.450 --> 00:33:09.100 saritha chilakapati: which most of you can go through it the next one, please. 259 00:33:11.190 --> 00:33:15.331 saritha chilakapati: So these are the key ratios. So I think if you see, the revenue has increased. 260 00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:26.369 saritha chilakapati: we're just. We're comparing half yearly from last September 23 to September 24.th So the revenue has increased by 11%. The Ebitda has increased by almost 69%. 261 00:33:26.410 --> 00:33:30.109 saritha chilakapati: The bat has increased by 1, 64% 262 00:33:30.390 --> 00:33:40.620 saritha chilakapati: and the ebitda margin and the last one is actually pat margin. So both have actually significantly increased. And I can explain about that during the Q&A. 1 by one 263 00:33:41.580 --> 00:33:42.950 saritha chilakapati: next one, please. 264 00:33:44.550 --> 00:33:50.389 saritha chilakapati: So this is the analysis of of the financials that have been shared. And it's just talking. Some bullet points 265 00:33:50.530 --> 00:33:54.289 saritha chilakapati: the same thing that was put up in the bar graph. It's it's again written here 266 00:33:55.096 --> 00:33:57.160 saritha chilakapati: described here in words. 267 00:33:58.830 --> 00:34:02.760 saritha chilakapati: Thank you. And we can discuss on this. We're open for Q&A. 268 00:34:04.370 --> 00:34:08.620 Vinay Chilakapati: Yeah, thank you. And you may please ask questions, and then I'll be very happy to answer. 269 00:34:12.070 --> 00:34:18.510 Finportal: Thank you, siren, ma'am. We'll now begin the question and answer session. Please raise your hands to ask your question. 270 00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:37.790 saritha chilakapati: There are certain questions. There are few questions in the chat box. We can take up those also. 271 00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:58.630 saritha chilakapati: Okay, can I? Can I? answer the questions that are in the chat box raised by Miss 272 00:34:58.890 --> 00:35:00.889 saritha chilakapati: Miss Nupur Karnani. 273 00:35:01.020 --> 00:35:04.880 Finportal: Yes, ma'am, you can start, and you can answer the questions. 274 00:35:05.230 --> 00:35:25.729 saritha chilakapati: Okay? So the 1st question is, your top line has shown a growth of 24, and the pat has decreased by 8.9 here here. I would like to emphasize that our Ebitda has actually been significantly so that has its own counter effect on the pat. So that's the reason you will not find in proportion to the last 275 00:35:25.770 --> 00:35:27.390 saritha chilakapati: financial year. 276 00:35:27.980 --> 00:35:31.880 saritha chilakapati: That's the hafili. One doesn't relate to the entire whole year. 277 00:35:32.050 --> 00:35:45.920 saritha chilakapati: And the second question is how the funds raised by you and I are deployed in the business. I think that I have shared a slide, and if Miss Nupur needs it, we can share the slide with her again, which describes how the funds were deployed. 278 00:35:46.410 --> 00:35:52.599 saritha chilakapati: Hi! Do you want me to explain it again? I can just do that in a moment. Just a minute. 279 00:35:58.350 --> 00:36:02.330 saritha chilakapati: So our funds were utilized for working capital, where 280 00:36:02.340 --> 00:36:07.761 saritha chilakapati: the objects of the issue mentioned about 11.6 stores, and we had utilized 281 00:36:08.140 --> 00:36:10.310 saritha chilakapati: almost 50% of it. 282 00:36:10.350 --> 00:36:19.239 saritha chilakapati: The Capex. We had raised 7.8 8 crores from the objects of the issue, and we had given advances for almost 3 crores. 283 00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:29.149 saritha chilakapati: We've cleared some debt which was part of the objects which has which has been utilized completely. General purpose expenses which was mentioned in the objects which has been utilized 284 00:36:29.330 --> 00:36:46.650 saritha chilakapati: and issue related. That's to onboard us on the Nsc. Platform, so that has been replaced the unutilized fund. One of the question is, what what was? Where are the unutilized funds being used? It will go for the advance, the for the Capex and working capital which is already planned. 285 00:36:48.040 --> 00:36:48.630 saritha chilakapati: and 286 00:36:50.460 --> 00:37:18.430 saritha chilakapati: the company has not done any Capex after 31st March 24, th then how the depreciation has increased! Now here I would like to tell you that we had moved into our new facility at Ultampur in the month of December, and after we moved we started being operational only from January. So that's the reason. If you look at our balance, sheet, our plant and missionary, or any fixed assets 287 00:37:18.430 --> 00:37:27.330 saritha chilakapati: have been transferred to the balance sheet only during the last quarter, due to which the depreciation will not be much, because it's on pro rata basis. 288 00:37:27.330 --> 00:37:32.630 saritha chilakapati: But if you were to look at the balance sheet of this hedge for 1st half 289 00:37:33.043 --> 00:37:40.950 saritha chilakapati: the the depreciation, or even amortization cost is on the higher side. So that is why you would see a variance in that. 290 00:37:41.430 --> 00:37:44.455 saritha chilakapati: I hope I address this question, and 291 00:37:45.520 --> 00:38:00.300 saritha chilakapati: company has increased long term borrowings in the 6 months. Where have the so whatever borrowings the company has taken, it goes into working capital, so it will be reflecting in the form of current assets, and if you look at 292 00:38:00.570 --> 00:38:02.539 saritha chilakapati: balance, sheet or draw 293 00:38:02.600 --> 00:38:11.649 saritha chilakapati: whatever inventory and all it's in the form of by the stocks, or in the form of advances to creditors, or in the form of deposits. 294 00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:16.279 saritha chilakapati: Most of the thing went into inventory, I would say. 295 00:38:17.900 --> 00:38:29.659 saritha chilakapati: what audible companies expecting for the coming year. So we've as it's been presented in our presentation for metal powders. We have a recurring order of 2 crores per month. 296 00:38:29.900 --> 00:38:34.239 saritha chilakapati: I mean, it's it's recurring. So we don't have a long term order book for metal code. 297 00:38:34.260 --> 00:38:43.569 saritha chilakapati: and we're also working on. I mean, we we already have worked on it. And we anticipate this to increase in a much larger scale. 298 00:38:43.740 --> 00:38:51.929 saritha chilakapati: And we're also aggressively working on exports because most of our products are import substitutes, which means we have a potential to export. 299 00:38:52.080 --> 00:39:03.999 saritha chilakapati: and the tungsten heavy Alloys Division already has an order book for unexecuted order. Book of 5.8 course, which the the process has already begun, and 300 00:39:04.450 --> 00:39:20.210 saritha chilakapati: I mean they are under the process of production and inspection. All that. So by the end of this fy, we should be able to clear these 2 order books, which means for metal ponders a recurring order book of 2 2 pros per month. So the next 6 months you can count 2 into 6. That's 12, 301 00:39:20.270 --> 00:39:27.299 saritha chilakapati: and about 6, 4, 4 tons to heavy alloy. That's about 18. But beyond that there's more which we don't have a 302 00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:33.490 saritha chilakapati: we don't have a I would say an evidence right now. But yes, we know the work that's happening at the back end. 303 00:39:33.910 --> 00:39:40.789 saritha chilakapati: Now, in the last 6 months. Current assets have increased by 8.9 6 lakhs. 304 00:39:40.830 --> 00:39:52.790 saritha chilakapati: So which current assets are these include, okay, let me tell you that you know our Ipo had. You know, our listing had began on 18th of September, so, which means we received our funds 305 00:39:52.830 --> 00:39:57.979 saritha chilakapati: just before the listing, and since it was half yearly we didn't want to 306 00:39:58.220 --> 00:40:12.729 saritha chilakapati: deploy the funds immediately, so we park the funds in the form of Fd. So 8 crores was in the form of Fd. It is still in the form of Fd. In the bank, and we are judiciously using it. The rest of the 96 lakhs must be in the form of stock, or a little bit of advances to suppliers. 307 00:40:14.197 --> 00:40:22.830 saritha chilakapati: What do you plan to do with unutilized funds? Yes, obviously, it's Capex and working capital, but I consider that the path figure of half yearly only starting from 308 00:40:23.160 --> 00:40:28.559 saritha chilakapati: 1st October to 31st of March 24. Just a moment. 309 00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:35.540 Finportal: No, but, ma'am, I would suggest that you unmute yourself and ask your question. It would provide a better clarity. 310 00:40:36.130 --> 00:40:37.129 saritha chilakapati: Yeah, that would be better. 311 00:40:40.220 --> 00:40:41.100 Finportal: Be a. 312 00:40:42.080 --> 00:40:44.580 Finportal: But yeah, I feel when the people are looking. 313 00:40:48.450 --> 00:40:49.690 Nupur Karnani: Good evening, ma'am. 314 00:40:50.200 --> 00:40:51.389 saritha chilakapati: What do you mean this week. 315 00:40:52.846 --> 00:41:03.430 Nupur Karnani: The pad for the period ending 31st March 2024, was it was something? 316 00:41:03.870 --> 00:41:05.820 Nupur Karnani: Yeah, it was 80. 317 00:41:08.670 --> 00:41:11.069 Nupur Karnani: It was 21 318 00:41:11.430 --> 00:41:27.589 Nupur Karnani: 7.2 2 lakhs, and if I consider for the period 30, th September 2024, it's 170.5 6. So I have just considered, you know, half year I have not compared your pat with the previous year. 319 00:41:27.620 --> 00:41:28.769 Nupur Karnani: I've considered. 320 00:41:28.770 --> 00:41:29.560 saritha chilakapati: Understood. 321 00:41:29.560 --> 00:41:30.930 Nupur Karnani: Yeah, yeah. 322 00:41:31.986 --> 00:41:36.500 saritha chilakapati: So here you need to understand. Please consider the Ebitda also. 323 00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:44.376 Nupur Karnani: Like Africa has seen a growth. But what I want to ask is key 324 00:41:44.900 --> 00:41:56.070 Nupur Karnani: then, as per your company's business, it means interest, depreciation. These are the 2 heads, because of which your path has reduced like that. 325 00:41:57.670 --> 00:42:03.809 saritha chilakapati: Yes, definitely interest component. That I mean, interest components has definitely increased. 326 00:42:03.840 --> 00:42:15.170 saritha chilakapati: And I think that's for the half yearly basis. But the going forward the next 6 months we will not be having much of a interest impact on our P. And L, which will substantially increase our pat. 327 00:42:16.510 --> 00:42:22.040 Nupur Karnani: One more thing you said. Your company has done Capex. Okay, if we consider your balance sheet 328 00:42:22.476 --> 00:42:39.119 Nupur Karnani: for the period ended 31, st March 2024, the tangible assets were worth 1347.4 9 lakhs, and on 30th September 2024 the value of for tangible assets is 1360.6 1. Okay. 329 00:42:39.120 --> 00:42:39.760 saritha chilakapati: Yes, ma'am. 330 00:42:40.040 --> 00:42:48.150 Nupur Karnani: Consider your balance sheet figures. Then there's no substantial increase in terms of Capex that has been done by your company. 331 00:42:49.550 --> 00:42:52.209 saritha chilakapati: It's in the form of advance to suppliers, ma'am. 332 00:42:52.740 --> 00:43:05.419 saritha chilakapati: It's in the process. So half of them are under. You know. We've given advances, and half of them are in the making. So one thing we need to understand here when it comes to Capex is not just. You know, we just buy it from the market 333 00:43:05.420 --> 00:43:29.390 saritha chilakapati: we also try to work with because we we come from a technology background. So for us, the cost is, you know, very important. The cost of manufacturing of the the cost of investment in Capex also is something we're very judicious about. So if you see, when I say advanced supplier, or whatever tangible assets that you're talking about. We're trying to make the asset at a minimalistic cost. 334 00:43:30.740 --> 00:43:31.610 Nupur Karnani: Okay. 335 00:43:32.370 --> 00:43:38.660 saritha chilakapati: So that's the reason, you know. You might find some of them intangible assets, and some of them in advance to suppliers. 336 00:43:38.690 --> 00:43:45.149 saritha chilakapati: And you know? So does that answer your question, or am I missing something? 337 00:43:50.390 --> 00:43:51.530 saritha chilakapati: Hello, Miss Napole! 338 00:43:52.080 --> 00:43:54.469 Nupur Karnani: Yeah, just just a moment. Just a moment. 339 00:43:54.790 --> 00:43:59.310 Nupur Karnani: Yeah, I got your point. So in your 340 00:43:59.410 --> 00:44:04.290 Nupur Karnani: were fixed assets. You have categorized your assets into 3 categories. 341 00:44:05.020 --> 00:44:05.670 saritha chilakapati: Yes. 342 00:44:05.670 --> 00:44:14.320 Nupur Karnani: So the amount of 1 1 9 1.2 5 lakhs. That is all about the advances given to the suppliers for fixed assets. 343 00:44:15.540 --> 00:44:17.670 saritha chilakapati: Most of it, ma'am, most of it. Yes. 344 00:44:18.230 --> 00:44:23.900 Nupur Karnani: Actually, I got confused because, you know, that has been shown under the heading of Loans and Advances. 345 00:44:24.530 --> 00:44:25.410 Nupur Karnani: So I. 346 00:44:25.410 --> 00:44:31.380 saritha chilakapati: Okay, if I may understand, so that even I can open my document, which year you're looking at. 347 00:44:31.970 --> 00:44:34.328 Nupur Karnani: 30, th September 2024. 348 00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:36.749 saritha chilakapati: Okay. At at which head, ma'am? 349 00:44:37.801 --> 00:44:43.519 Nupur Karnani: Under assets. If you look at non-current assets this second last week, loans and advances. 350 00:44:46.690 --> 00:44:48.230 saritha chilakapati: That's 2.7 7. 351 00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:52.199 Nupur Karnani: It's 1 1 9 1.2 5. 352 00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:55.980 saritha chilakapati: This this is for which year, huh? 353 00:44:57.090 --> 00:45:00.479 Nupur Karnani: Okay? 11, okay, one, second, 1191, just a minute. 354 00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:01.780 Nupur Karnani: Yeah. 355 00:45:29.500 --> 00:45:32.770 saritha chilakapati: Just a minute, ma'am. Let me open my software for a minute. 356 00:45:33.720 --> 00:45:34.340 Nupur Karnani: Yeah. 357 00:45:55.220 --> 00:45:57.790 saritha chilakapati: Can we write you specifically, ma'am. 358 00:45:59.860 --> 00:46:06.390 saritha chilakapati: about this breakup just? Or if you can hold on for a minute, I can clarify the whole thing. It will not take long for me. 359 00:46:06.770 --> 00:46:11.559 Nupur Karnani: It's all about your comfortability. You can reply later on. Also, no issues. 360 00:46:11.940 --> 00:46:13.000 Nupur Karnani: I'm fine customer. 361 00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:15.110 saritha chilakapati: I'll try to reply to you right away. 362 00:46:15.500 --> 00:46:16.290 Nupur Karnani: Okay. 363 00:46:21.050 --> 00:46:25.600 Vinay Chilakapati: In the meanwhile, Mr. Sahil Raj. 364 00:46:26.310 --> 00:46:30.490 Vinay Chilakapati: Is there a technical question, or is it is it to do with finance. 365 00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:36.450 Vinay Chilakapati: Mr. Sagin? Raj? You have been waiting for some time. 366 00:46:38.660 --> 00:46:39.060 Sahil Raj: Hello! 367 00:46:40.600 --> 00:46:42.390 Vinay Chilakapati: Yeah. Good evening. Sir. 368 00:46:42.390 --> 00:46:53.330 Sahil Raj: Good evening. I wanted to ask this capex that innomate is doing by when it is supposed to get operational, and how much will it increase our exist existing capacity. 369 00:46:55.490 --> 00:47:07.410 Vinay Chilakapati: Well, one of the key we are actually already investing on Capex. But one of the key things is a gas atomizer, which will take about 6 to 8 months 370 00:47:07.580 --> 00:47:10.660 Vinay Chilakapati: to get into full production. 371 00:47:11.180 --> 00:47:14.939 Vinay Chilakapati: So yeah, about 6 to 8 months. 372 00:47:15.220 --> 00:47:21.189 Vinay Chilakapati: The many, many things are happening. But one big thing is gas atomizer. 373 00:47:22.830 --> 00:47:28.039 Sahil Raj: And and by, how much will it increase our existing capacity 374 00:47:28.200 --> 00:47:30.839 Sahil Raj: if any approximate measure you have right now. 375 00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:49.219 Vinay Chilakapati: Well, gas atomizer powders are completely different powders with completely different application. So just as a measure of the tonnage we are looking at around around 30 to 40 tons of gas atomized powders per year. 376 00:47:49.746 --> 00:47:56.530 Vinay Chilakapati: So, maybe about but but but they're all very special powers, very, very, very special powers. 377 00:47:57.150 --> 00:48:01.139 Sahil Raj: So you might be already having some advanced inquiries for these powers. Right. 378 00:48:01.140 --> 00:48:07.880 Vinay Chilakapati: Yes, yes, but they need to be developed. We already have a 10 kg, gas atomizer. 379 00:48:07.940 --> 00:48:16.470 Vinay Chilakapati: And we are already giving samples in small ways. But the actual commercial production will need about 6 to 8 months 380 00:48:16.530 --> 00:48:21.120 Vinay Chilakapati: to set up the full thing. And then, you know, start commercial production. 381 00:48:22.030 --> 00:48:30.539 Sahil Raj: And how will this new production line improve our Ebitda margins maybe even improve our profit after tax, if you have any? 382 00:48:30.540 --> 00:48:31.860 Sahil Raj: He is, isn't it audio? 383 00:48:32.110 --> 00:48:41.170 Vinay Chilakapati: Definitely at least 3 to 4% more this thing will be there, because these are speciality powders and largely import substitutes. 384 00:48:42.580 --> 00:48:48.609 Sahil Raj: And so we have both export and import queries for means. Advance orders for this desktop. 385 00:48:48.610 --> 00:49:15.029 Vinay Chilakapati: Yes, yeah, initially, to begin with, it will be input substitution. So once you are strong at the home front, then it will be a natural export potential. We are already talking to various firms in the country and outside also. But it's all at the very basic level that is, at 10 kg, level. So once we are ready with the actual production setup, then we can actually go into sales full sales. 386 00:49:16.090 --> 00:49:22.049 Sahil Raj: And one thing I wanted to ask on the pricing level, I mean, how is the pricing decided in your business? 387 00:49:22.352 --> 00:49:27.710 Sahil Raj: Does the supplier, mandate it, or maybe you have some pricing power on your end. How does it work. 388 00:49:27.710 --> 00:49:34.770 Vinay Chilakapati: So so we have a mix of see? Essentially, we have 2 2 divisions. One is. 389 00:49:34.810 --> 00:49:38.279 Vinay Chilakapati: one is metal powders, and the other one is Thompson heavy alloys. 390 00:49:38.500 --> 00:49:45.993 Vinay Chilakapati: So when it comes to metal powders, we are actually dealing with a variety of metal powders where 391 00:49:47.040 --> 00:50:06.948 Vinay Chilakapati: there is for some there is about 2 to 3 people in the country competing for some there is only one, and for some there is nobody in the country, so it's only import competition. So we have an edge when it comes to absolute import substitute. But when it comes to an Indian thing it's going to be a market 392 00:50:08.580 --> 00:50:19.339 Vinay Chilakapati: determined thing. But we generally concentrate on you know, import substitutes and specialty where people would like to. You know, buy more 393 00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:26.480 Vinay Chilakapati: quality, material and all that. So yes, in some cases we have to fight in the market. In some cases we have an edge. 394 00:50:27.082 --> 00:50:30.409 Vinay Chilakapati: So it's a combination of many, and in tungsten heavy alloys. 395 00:50:30.420 --> 00:50:37.410 Vinay Chilakapati: Largely it. It is import substitution, particularly with Akhmanir Bhar, where 396 00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:51.780 Vinay Chilakapati: government of India decided not to buy anything from the neighbors. So we have a small protection there, and we are competing only with the Europeans and Americans. So we have a slight edge over there in the Tanzania organization. 397 00:50:52.790 --> 00:51:11.130 Sahil Raj: All right. Okay? And one thing on the margin aspect, when all of the 3 product lines of your company are into production, be it the metal power division, the gas to mine, and the tungsten heavy alloys. Which of them offer the better margins and profitability. 398 00:51:11.860 --> 00:51:17.729 Vinay Chilakapati: Tungsten. Heavy airlines is the best of the lot, but gas optimizers also. 399 00:51:18.178 --> 00:51:37.620 Vinay Chilakapati: Is a good one. So it it is a mix of high margin and high volume. So whenever you have a high margin then your volumes are low when you are, when you are having a higher volumes. Your margins are slightly less when it comes to volumes, but tungsten have. Your voice is the best. 400 00:51:38.940 --> 00:51:44.980 Sahil Raj: And any chance to scale this metal powder division, which is a recurring revenue of 2 crores. 401 00:51:45.350 --> 00:51:50.640 Vinay Chilakapati: Absolutely. We are constantly working on it. And that is what I was telling you about hiding. 402 00:51:50.640 --> 00:51:54.759 Vinay Chilakapati: hiring very senior people for the marketing department. 403 00:51:54.790 --> 00:52:03.669 Vinay Chilakapati: So they are already in talks with many customers, and then new import substitutes like stainless steel for power, metallurgy and infiltration copper, for 404 00:52:04.074 --> 00:52:25.209 Vinay Chilakapati: you know, infiltration application. These are all being imported to the country right now. So they're all in the very advanced stages of development. So we are going to give samples very soon, and then hopefully, that should convert into good orders. So that just to mention that metal powders is on a scale up spree. 405 00:52:26.320 --> 00:52:32.180 Sahil Raj: One thing you mentioned on that solar power plant. Could you kindly explain it in better terms? 406 00:52:32.180 --> 00:52:36.579 Vinay Chilakapati: So we have, like, yeah, like, you have seen on the presentation, 2 shared. 407 00:52:36.650 --> 00:52:41.680 Vinay Chilakapati: So we have about 20,000 square feet of rooftop. 408 00:52:41.770 --> 00:52:46.290 Vinay Chilakapati: So we are actually planning a 250 kilowatt solar power plant. 409 00:52:46.340 --> 00:52:49.340 Vinay Chilakapati: It is in the advanced stages of finalizing with the 410 00:52:49.795 --> 00:52:55.650 Vinay Chilakapati: vendor. So about 2 to 3 months we should be that the plan should be up and running. 411 00:52:56.590 --> 00:53:02.300 Sahil Raj: And how much targeted savings are you seeing from this solar power plant implementation. 412 00:53:02.300 --> 00:53:13.380 Vinay Chilakapati: So we should be saving on at least 25,000 units per month so at at a cost of about 8 to ₹9. The current cost 413 00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:23.580 Vinay Chilakapati: so about 6 to ₹7. That means about about a lack. Lakh and a half. Savings should be there after depreciation and accounting for all that finance costs. 414 00:53:24.955 --> 00:53:35.330 Sahil Raj: Okay, sir, thank you. My final question would be on the import and export percentage. I mean, the exports are currently higher or the imports in the revenue. Mix currently. 415 00:53:35.910 --> 00:53:39.760 Vinay Chilakapati: Imports or the domestic sales. What do you mean? Domestic sales? Is it. 416 00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:41.100 Sahil Raj: Yes, yes, yes, domestic sales. 417 00:53:41.100 --> 00:53:55.840 Vinay Chilakapati: Yeah, domestic sales. So domestic sales is a large portion right now, about almost 85 to 90%. But our efforts is on the export. So, going forward, you will see the exports increasing from wherever currently we are. 418 00:53:57.570 --> 00:53:59.669 Sahil Raj: Okay, sir. Okay, thank you very much for answering. Thank you. 419 00:53:59.670 --> 00:54:01.739 Vinay Chilakapati: Thank you, sir. Thank you very much for your time. 420 00:54:04.423 --> 00:54:08.410 saritha chilakapati: Miss Nupur, can I answer your call? Your query. 421 00:54:08.410 --> 00:54:09.490 Nupur Karnani: Sure, ma'am. 422 00:54:09.910 --> 00:54:37.759 saritha chilakapati: Yeah. So I've gone through the data. So these are, you know, of course, capital advances given to our suppliers. Some have been, you know, like, we've been building our unit for the past literally 4 years. The purpose built one. So some advances have been given for that in that a part of it was for certain equipments and certain equipments we've been building it. So these have been either capital advances or advances for long term contracts. 423 00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:40.719 saritha chilakapati: so that is the nature of the expenditure. 424 00:54:41.360 --> 00:54:45.250 Nupur Karnani: Okay? So you said one more thing that you have 425 00:54:45.290 --> 00:54:49.779 Nupur Karnani: raised long term borrowings for the purpose of working capital right? 426 00:54:50.330 --> 00:54:51.000 saritha chilakapati: Hmm. 427 00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:58.117 Nupur Karnani: So I just want to ask one thing that in your red herring prospectus you allocated 428 00:54:58.560 --> 00:55:03.469 Nupur Karnani: 1,159.7 0 lakhs for your working capital requirements. 429 00:55:03.890 --> 00:55:04.700 saritha chilakapati: Yes, ma'am. 430 00:55:05.020 --> 00:55:13.339 Nupur Karnani: Okay? And you have utilized as per your current the pitch deck that you presented. Yeah. 431 00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:18.889 Nupur Karnani: that you have allocated 572.7 4 lakhs for your working capital. 432 00:55:19.390 --> 00:55:20.160 saritha chilakapati: Right now. 433 00:55:20.340 --> 00:55:31.999 Nupur Karnani: You have unutilized funds of 1,072.1 6 lakhs. Then I just want to ask you that when we are having Ipo proceeds unutilized, and 434 00:55:32.270 --> 00:55:43.359 Nupur Karnani: then why we are not using those proceeds, and instead of that, we are raising long term borrowings, which are increasing the finance cost of the company. Lowering the pat margin. 435 00:55:45.160 --> 00:55:58.876 saritha chilakapati: See, see, they, by end of September, was too little time for us to decide on this, so we just parked it in the sense. What you're saying is right, you know, taking long term funds and utilizing it in the in the 436 00:55:59.770 --> 00:56:11.069 saritha chilakapati: I mean, the funding should have been the other way. But you know, I think, whatever query you've raised which it will be corrected in the in the next 1. 2 months. 437 00:56:12.090 --> 00:56:13.922 Nupur Karnani: And one more thing. 438 00:56:14.770 --> 00:56:21.729 Nupur Karnani: normally, if we want to fund our working capital, we always consider, or we always go for short term borrowings. 439 00:56:23.230 --> 00:56:32.100 Nupur Karnani: Long term points are normally, you know, we raise this fund for either acquiring some asset or again repay some. You know liability. 440 00:56:32.100 --> 00:56:33.220 saritha chilakapati: That sure. 441 00:56:33.220 --> 00:56:37.260 Nupur Karnani: Because long term borrowings carry high rate of interest. 442 00:56:37.530 --> 00:56:39.577 Nupur Karnani: Right? Working capital 443 00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:59.369 Nupur Karnani: You could have considered short term borrowings also, because short term borrowings are normally meant for. You know our working capital needs, then, in that very case, why your company has reduced its short term borrowings. It has repaid its short term, borrowing somewhere around 410 lakhs. 444 00:57:00.740 --> 00:57:02.040 saritha chilakapati: And simultaneously, okay. 445 00:57:02.040 --> 00:57:06.460 Nupur Karnani: By that amount your long term borrowings have increased totally. 446 00:57:06.730 --> 00:57:07.260 Nupur Karnani: Why. 447 00:57:07.260 --> 00:57:11.670 Vinay Chilakapati: No, no, we will, we will. We will clear the long term borrowings very soon, ma'am. 448 00:57:12.035 --> 00:57:33.509 Vinay Chilakapati: Yeah, because we didn't have time, because, see what you see is, you know, end of September, which means we hardly had less than 2 weeks, for all that. So it'll it'll all get corrected definitely. We don't want to pay more interest to Banks now that we have funds. So yeah, all that will be clear. Set right very soon. 449 00:57:34.530 --> 00:57:35.630 Nupur Karnani: Okay. One more. 450 00:57:35.630 --> 00:57:38.859 Vinay Chilakapati: Yeah, your point is well taken. Your point is well taken, absolutely. 451 00:57:39.180 --> 00:57:55.120 Nupur Karnani: Thank you. There's 1 more thing. As per your rhp the tungsten heavy alloys. You're dealing in 2 products. One is alloys. And second one is, yeah. So in tungsten heavy alloys, you don't have any competitor right? 452 00:57:55.260 --> 00:57:57.369 Nupur Karnani: That was mentioned in the Rhp. 453 00:57:58.360 --> 00:57:59.180 Nupur Karnani: No complaint. 454 00:57:59.950 --> 00:58:02.440 Vinay Chilakapati: You're you're right, you're right. Yes, yes. 455 00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:04.500 Vinay Chilakapati: we are the only only private sector in the country. 456 00:58:04.500 --> 00:58:05.250 Nupur Karnani: Do that. 457 00:58:07.240 --> 00:58:13.600 Nupur Karnani: Yes. So in that. In that scenario you have the power of, you know, fixing the pricing thing. You have 458 00:58:14.270 --> 00:58:19.370 Nupur Karnani: the bargaining power your company has, in terms of that thing so. 459 00:58:19.370 --> 00:58:28.570 Vinay Chilakapati: Yeah, but but there is a limit to everything, ma'am, because there is always there is a see. Ultimately the customer also has to sell his product right? 460 00:58:28.670 --> 00:58:38.430 Vinay Chilakapati: So even if it is this defense, they have to be competitive, so ultimately, maybe slightly more. But it is not a runaway margin. It is not that we dictate something. 461 00:58:38.590 --> 00:58:39.800 Nupur Karnani: Hmm, hmm. 462 00:58:39.800 --> 00:58:44.399 Vinay Chilakapati: So always there is a. There is a China, there is a government of India enterprise. 463 00:58:44.580 --> 00:58:48.230 Vinay Chilakapati: so these are all relative ones. These are. 464 00:58:48.230 --> 00:58:48.610 Nupur Karnani: Yeah. 465 00:58:49.940 --> 00:58:55.495 Vinay Chilakapati: Yeah, so we can. We can't say that it's going to benefit the company, even though having monopoly in that 466 00:58:55.760 --> 00:59:05.199 Vinay Chilakapati: absolutely, we are benefited. That's why I'm saying, trans, give you slightly margin. But that doesn't mean you start to dictate terms. So we are at a component level. 467 00:59:05.618 --> 00:59:18.321 Vinay Chilakapati: So definitely. These are all high end technologies. And you know very few people in the country or even in the world. They are there to do these things. But again, that doesn't mean that there is a runaway thing it's not like. 468 00:59:18.967 --> 00:59:28.150 Vinay Chilakapati: you know, a pharmaceutical industry where your bomb cost is 10%. And you're selling something at ₹100 something like that. I'm just giving you a. 469 00:59:28.150 --> 00:59:28.930 Nupur Karnani: Yeah, yeah. 470 00:59:28.930 --> 00:59:30.270 Vinay Chilakapati: Analogy. Yeah. Yeah. 471 00:59:31.607 --> 00:59:32.950 Nupur Karnani: One more thing. 472 00:59:33.030 --> 00:59:34.200 Nupur Karnani: Oh. 473 00:59:34.290 --> 00:59:42.709 Nupur Karnani: you said that. Ha, ma'am, you were saying something about loans and advances. We ship, you know. There was a figure 1.9 1.2 5. 474 00:59:42.710 --> 00:59:43.970 saritha chilakapati: 7 nineties. Yeah. 475 00:59:43.970 --> 00:59:44.580 Nupur Karnani: Yeah, yeah. 476 00:59:45.200 --> 00:59:51.659 Nupur Karnani: So that is all about the advances given to the suppliers for acquiring capital assets. 477 00:59:51.660 --> 00:59:52.849 saritha chilakapati: Yes, yes, ma'am. 478 00:59:53.340 --> 00:59:59.409 Nupur Karnani: Okay, that means the heading was wrong loans and advances. I thought company has given some notes. 479 00:59:59.920 --> 01:00:00.889 saritha chilakapati: No, no. 480 01:00:01.480 --> 01:00:04.789 Nupur Karnani: Okay, so just want to ask one more thing. 481 01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:13.540 Nupur Karnani: Oh, this this is a technical question whether depreciation can be charged on this thing. 482 01:00:13.950 --> 01:00:19.260 saritha chilakapati: I'm bit confused about this advances when you advances. 483 01:00:19.260 --> 01:00:19.920 saritha chilakapati: Love it. 484 01:00:20.590 --> 01:00:31.079 saritha chilakapati: Yes, yes, when, when, when the transaction is closed, in the sense when when the equipment has been delivered it'll become an asset. And again, yeah, it'll add toward appreciation. 485 01:00:31.650 --> 01:00:35.849 Nupur Karnani: And whether you have charged depreciation on capital work in progress as well. 486 01:00:36.530 --> 01:00:37.380 saritha chilakapati: No. 487 01:00:38.270 --> 01:00:42.939 Nupur Karnani: No, you've just charged appreciation on tangible assets and advances. 488 01:00:43.800 --> 01:00:49.439 saritha chilakapati: Not an advance. Also, we can't charge in advances right? It's only on tangible assets. 489 01:00:49.680 --> 01:00:56.870 Nupur Karnani: Then how your depreciation has increased that too much? That was my question. Actually, your depreciation has seen a surge. 490 01:00:56.900 --> 01:01:00.139 Nupur Karnani: If you're not charging appreciation on these things. 491 01:01:01.160 --> 01:01:06.759 saritha chilakapati: Oh, see one thing you need to notice in the intangible assets we have something called a sweat equity 492 01:01:06.810 --> 01:01:08.379 saritha chilakapati: which had to be charged. 493 01:01:08.790 --> 01:01:10.119 saritha chilakapati: I have the. 494 01:01:10.120 --> 01:01:10.800 Nupur Karnani: 6. 495 01:01:12.030 --> 01:01:12.710 saritha chilakapati: Yes. 496 01:01:13.150 --> 01:01:20.000 Nupur Karnani: In the intangible assets. I just have a figure. There's no such note or something. It's 1 95.2 3. 497 01:01:21.120 --> 01:01:21.920 saritha chilakapati: Yes, ma'am. 498 01:01:23.210 --> 01:01:28.000 Nupur Karnani: So you're saying, and this intangible asset is in the form of shared equity shares. 499 01:01:29.970 --> 01:01:33.979 saritha chilakapati: Yes, ma'am, it's no, I think. See, we were charged on trademark. 500 01:01:34.630 --> 01:01:35.040 saritha chilakapati: Yeah, yeah. 501 01:01:35.040 --> 01:01:37.422 saritha chilakapati: 90. Yeah. So I think about 502 01:01:37.820 --> 01:01:45.530 Nupur Karnani: These intangible assets are in the form of trademark. It's not sweat equity, because sweat, equity will not form part of intangible assets. 503 01:01:46.500 --> 01:01:48.359 Nupur Karnani: It was one part of equity. 504 01:01:48.840 --> 01:02:00.620 saritha chilakapati: So sweat equity was charged, it will show in the employees expense. Map. About 35 lakhs was charged. Employee benefits, expenses 33.5 1. 505 01:02:02.890 --> 01:02:04.840 saritha chilakapati: If you can check the P. And L. 506 01:02:07.150 --> 01:02:12.989 Nupur Karnani: Actually, I just have. You know the last, the final figure of 1 32.1 3 lakhs. 507 01:02:12.990 --> 01:02:13.480 saritha chilakapati: Exactly. 508 01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:13.860 Nupur Karnani: I see. 509 01:02:13.860 --> 01:02:17.159 saritha chilakapati: So 1, 32 includes the sweat equity component of 510 01:02:18.424 --> 01:02:28.029 Nupur Karnani: Fair enough that that will be included in that. My only question was, you have charged depreciation and amortization on tangible and intangible assets. Okay. 511 01:02:28.030 --> 01:02:29.390 saritha chilakapati: Yes, yes. 512 01:02:29.640 --> 01:02:30.560 Nupur Karnani: So you have not. 513 01:02:31.200 --> 01:02:35.460 Nupur Karnani: So you have not charged anything on advances given to suppliers, and. 514 01:02:35.460 --> 01:02:35.810 saritha chilakapati: No. 515 01:02:35.810 --> 01:02:37.320 Nupur Karnani: Capital work, in progress. 516 01:02:37.900 --> 01:02:39.580 saritha chilakapati: No, not at all. 517 01:02:41.200 --> 01:02:46.200 Nupur Karnani: 2 tangible assets. If I consider the last period. 518 01:02:46.690 --> 01:02:47.280 saritha chilakapati: Hmm. 519 01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:55.299 Nupur Karnani: At this period neither the tangible assets nor intangible assets have increased, but the amount of depreciation has increased. 520 01:02:56.430 --> 01:02:57.380 Nupur Karnani: I must. 521 01:02:57.380 --> 01:03:02.210 saritha chilakapati: Same as exactly so. What what you're saying I understand, because the tangents 522 01:03:02.220 --> 01:03:08.080 saritha chilakapati: where we were in working progress entire of last year, so that. 523 01:03:08.080 --> 01:03:08.420 Nupur Karnani: That's fine! 524 01:03:08.420 --> 01:03:11.969 saritha chilakapati: Last last year, when you, when you see the closing figure. 525 01:03:12.130 --> 01:03:15.330 saritha chilakapati: I just compare it with last half yearly. 526 01:03:15.780 --> 01:03:23.529 saritha chilakapati: see the tangible assets, as on 21, st March 24, th and as on September 30, th 2023, 527 01:03:24.040 --> 01:03:27.800 saritha chilakapati: so you'll find that they're not many. They most of them are in working progress. 528 01:03:29.540 --> 01:03:36.159 Nupur Karnani: Actually, your Pdf. Is that yearly basis. Only I'm not having that happily figured. 529 01:03:36.160 --> 01:03:58.420 saritha chilakapati: If if needed. We'll share it with you, ma'am. So if you see they were actually you know they can. They were converted to asset only during the last quarter. So that's the reason you will not find much of depreciation, and what you said is a valid point, because at at the end of the financial year. You have some asset, and it was not charged last year, but it is charged now. So why? It has increased because 530 01:03:58.450 --> 01:04:05.969 saritha chilakapati: a significant amount, as of tangible assets have been put to use. That's how our unit is operational. Now. 531 01:04:06.940 --> 01:04:08.839 Vinay Chilakapati: Okay. Got it. 532 01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:14.620 Vinay Chilakapati: The new unit, the new unit, the land, the building, all the power. Everything which is a 533 01:04:15.750 --> 01:04:27.270 Vinay Chilakapati: has been has been billed at the end of last financial year. So you cannot actually charge full depreciation for that year. So that's how it is. 534 01:04:28.310 --> 01:04:28.670 saritha chilakapati: And it. 535 01:04:28.670 --> 01:04:29.069 Vinay Chilakapati: Did you just. 536 01:04:29.070 --> 01:04:31.969 saritha chilakapati: Only for the last last quarter, because 537 01:04:32.330 --> 01:04:37.260 saritha chilakapati: only end of democracy. End of December is when we actually got all the. 538 01:04:37.260 --> 01:04:37.680 Vinay Chilakapati: License. 539 01:04:37.680 --> 01:04:41.820 saritha chilakapati: When we actually moved. And you know, it was operational only from January. 540 01:04:41.870 --> 01:04:47.089 saritha chilakapati: So that's the reason the amount is really, really in. Comparatively, it's much lower. 541 01:04:47.140 --> 01:04:51.349 saritha chilakapati: but the value of asset is on the higher side. When you say for last year. 542 01:04:51.890 --> 01:04:52.630 Nupur Karnani: Yes. 543 01:04:54.280 --> 01:04:55.910 Vinay Chilakapati: Does that answer your question? 544 01:04:56.390 --> 01:04:58.370 Nupur Karnani: Yeah, thank, you. 545 01:05:01.741 --> 01:05:04.540 Finportal: We'll take the next question from Mr. Sahil. Raj. 546 01:05:06.555 --> 01:05:07.270 Sahil Raj: Hello! 547 01:05:07.270 --> 01:05:09.089 Vinay Chilakapati: Yeah, yeah, sir. Go ahead, sir. 548 01:05:09.416 --> 01:05:20.200 Sahil Raj: My question was that in the P. And L. Statement there is a note written in the lower end that output Gst was included in revenue from operations in previous periods, and 549 01:05:20.270 --> 01:05:25.030 Sahil Raj: has been shown in other expenses. So, ma'am, kindly, can you explain this adjustment? 550 01:05:25.630 --> 01:05:31.747 saritha chilakapati: Oh, yes, sir, so actually in our rhp and all we had actually given Ross 551 01:05:32.497 --> 01:05:47.530 saritha chilakapati: gross sales data and all that. So we always try to show a larger number, because that is how we were used to at some point of time. But we thought, we will correct it at you know, at some point we have to correct it. So this was used as an opportunity, and that's why the note has been put up that way. 552 01:05:48.520 --> 01:05:57.019 Sahil Raj: So going forward. These figures that are mentioned in the results recently declared are the going norm right? This will be the going forward. 553 01:05:57.020 --> 01:06:02.500 saritha chilakapati: Yeah, I think it's it's a standardized format which we actually did not know. Frankly. And we have correct. 554 01:06:03.410 --> 01:06:18.199 Sahil Raj: And one thing on the working capital cycle. How long does our working capital cycle takes me? How long we get the money back from our trade receivables, or maybe we pay the pay, our trade trade payables. How long does it take. 555 01:06:18.870 --> 01:06:28.628 saritha chilakapati: Okay, so typically for a metal powder division, the working capital ranges because metal powders is a very small cycle anywhere between 3 weeks to Max. 556 01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:31.760 saritha chilakapati: Max, I would say 10 weeks at the most. 557 01:06:31.890 --> 01:06:49.799 saritha chilakapati: at the most. That's on the that's on the the quicker side would be 3 weeks, but on the longer cycle would be about 10 weeks. But when it comes to taxable, heavy alloys it takes anywhere between, you know, from receiving the order to executing order. It's between 3 to 9 months. 558 01:06:50.250 --> 01:06:51.790 saritha chilakapati: It's a long cycle. 559 01:06:51.940 --> 01:07:02.550 saritha chilakapati: because the inspections and and what is that of the approvals and all they do take time, and of course, you know, at every stage there is inspection. That is where the delays. 560 01:07:02.940 --> 01:07:08.219 saritha chilakapati: So both both the both divisions have different cycles altogether. 561 01:07:09.510 --> 01:07:15.619 Sahil Raj: And this is the normal operating cycle. Right? It mean, it generally takes 6 to 9 months for this. 562 01:07:16.340 --> 01:07:16.930 Sahil Raj: Yeah, for. 563 01:07:16.930 --> 01:07:23.789 saritha chilakapati: Junction. Yes, 3 to 9 months, some some of some of them close within 3 months. But typically it's between 3 to 9 months. 564 01:07:25.180 --> 01:07:27.150 Sahil Raj: Alright, ma'am, thank you very much. Thank you. 565 01:07:27.150 --> 01:07:27.870 saritha chilakapati: Thank you 566 01:07:33.340 --> 01:07:34.630 saritha chilakapati: any more questions, sir. 567 01:07:34.630 --> 01:07:35.200 Vinay Chilakapati: That's. 568 01:07:38.310 --> 01:07:43.149 Finportal: I would now like to hand over the conference to Mr. Vanessa for closing comments. 569 01:07:45.130 --> 01:07:50.548 Vinay Chilakapati: Well, thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, investors, friends and family 570 01:07:51.520 --> 01:08:01.889 Vinay Chilakapati: for being part of this discussion, and we would continue to seek your support. And we would definitely work hard 571 01:08:02.827 --> 01:08:06.649 Vinay Chilakapati: towards meeting your expectations. Thank you very much. 572 01:08:08.860 --> 01:08:15.079 Finportal: On behalf of phenomet, advanced material, limited. I thank you all for joining us, and you may now disconnect from the meeting. 573 01:08:18.750 --> 01:08:20.509 saritha chilakapati: Thank you. Everyone. 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